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	<title>Comments on: Spirituality isn&#8217;t&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am seeing a spiritual moving towards this basic understanding that you have outlined here. We seem to always read, listen, interact, to achieve some &quot;unforeseen&quot; goal. It&#039;s amazing when we are alone we can just &quot;Be still and know that the Lord is God&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seeing a spiritual moving towards this basic understanding that you have outlined here. We seem to always read, listen, interact, to achieve some &#8220;unforeseen&#8221; goal. It&#8217;s amazing when we are alone we can just &#8220;Be still and know that the Lord is God&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Martoia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Martoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dries, brilliant question which beautifully shows the level of your journey the commitment you have obviously made to new practices, contemplative, awareness, centering type practices that bring this interior light.  You have noted the movement trajectory.  It starts inside and comes to our conscious awareness that something this actually happening on the inside.  This is precisely, I think, what Paul means in Eph 1.15ff where he prays that the eyes of the Ephesians hearts would be enlightened. He prays directly for the interior light bulb to go one, just as you are describing.  But the movement outward to how all this impacts behavior and integrates our lives is a longer journey.  My personal experience and with those that have coached me and that I have walked with for some time, is that these ah ha&#039;s happen quietly over months and years.  It is almost as if one day you wake up and realize this particular issue in your head hasn&#039;t been present for awhile and voila&#039; something powerful has shifted.  Or you realize some pain deep in your spirit is lighten and hardly ever a motivator.  Or you come to see the shadow side in an area is not the engine in some compulsive area.  These are the fruits of interior work being done, but it does take time, and I think the awareness that the work is going on comes to conscious levels often very quietly.  So yes soldier on, and live into those beautifully healing changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dries, brilliant question which beautifully shows the level of your journey the commitment you have obviously made to new practices, contemplative, awareness, centering type practices that bring this interior light.  You have noted the movement trajectory.  It starts inside and comes to our conscious awareness that something this actually happening on the inside.  This is precisely, I think, what Paul means in Eph 1.15ff where he prays that the eyes of the Ephesians hearts would be enlightened. He prays directly for the interior light bulb to go one, just as you are describing.  But the movement outward to how all this impacts behavior and integrates our lives is a longer journey.  My personal experience and with those that have coached me and that I have walked with for some time, is that these ah ha&#8217;s happen quietly over months and years.  It is almost as if one day you wake up and realize this particular issue in your head hasn&#8217;t been present for awhile and voila&#8217; something powerful has shifted.  Or you realize some pain deep in your spirit is lighten and hardly ever a motivator.  Or you come to see the shadow side in an area is not the engine in some compulsive area.  These are the fruits of interior work being done, but it does take time, and I think the awareness that the work is going on comes to conscious levels often very quietly.  So yes soldier on, and live into those beautifully healing changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dries C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dries C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron... I agree here, although not too long ago I would have thought of spirituality as all those things to do, and more. I&#039;ve now started (!) experiencing an awakening in the interior part, or the hidden part.

One question... How and when does that internal experience, awakening and higher consciousness start translating to the externals to bring the necessary healing and correction? I would love to have the inner peace etc translate to better behavior, better thinking and less dependence...

I&#039;m seeing some fruit in terms of more peacefulness. Should I just soldier on and seek more consciousness of God&#039;s presence daily, waiting for Him to restore me to sanity and health?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron&#8230; I agree here, although not too long ago I would have thought of spirituality as all those things to do, and more. I&#8217;ve now started (!) experiencing an awakening in the interior part, or the hidden part.</p>
<p>One question&#8230; How and when does that internal experience, awakening and higher consciousness start translating to the externals to bring the necessary healing and correction? I would love to have the inner peace etc translate to better behavior, better thinking and less dependence&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m seeing some fruit in terms of more peacefulness. Should I just soldier on and seek more consciousness of God&#8217;s presence daily, waiting for Him to restore me to sanity and health?</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha Dack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasha Dack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Ron, Sorry I have been laxed on staying up on your current doings with velocity, but when I saw this it was amazing, I just had this exact talk with a friend of mine yesturday, I reminded her that living for Jesus ISN&#039;T about the laws, she kept making the statement &quot;I know I&#039;m not in the right place with God&quot; So I asked her what does that mean, what is THAT suppose to look at, she didn&#039;t know, so I read this article to her, This was confirmation to what I had said to her in yesturday&#039;s conversation. What a great time to see this!!! Thank you for again following Gods voice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Ron, Sorry I have been laxed on staying up on your current doings with velocity, but when I saw this it was amazing, I just had this exact talk with a friend of mine yesturday, I reminded her that living for Jesus ISN&#8217;T about the laws, she kept making the statement &#8220;I know I&#8217;m not in the right place with God&#8221; So I asked her what does that mean, what is THAT suppose to look at, she didn&#8217;t know, so I read this article to her, This was confirmation to what I had said to her in yesturday&#8217;s conversation. What a great time to see this!!! Thank you for again following Gods voice!</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Oberholtzer</title>
		<link>http://www.velocityculture.com/spirituality/spirituality-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Oberholtzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! 

Hadn&#039;t thought about the fact that Jesus was over interested in seeing and eyes ... but I do know when I stopped going through life with just information and instead began &#039;seeing&#039; God, especially in creation, it opened many new thoughts and questions in my mind. 

Love the last line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! </p>
<p>Hadn&#8217;t thought about the fact that Jesus was over interested in seeing and eyes &#8230; but I do know when I stopped going through life with just information and instead began &#8217;seeing&#8217; God, especially in creation, it opened many new thoughts and questions in my mind. </p>
<p>Love the last line!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, and yes.  Spirituality isn&#039;t something you do it&#039;s something that you become aware something you &quot;wake up&quot; to.  The process of becoming awake and unlearning cognitive thoughts about spirituality from childhood isn&#039;t an easy journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, and yes.  Spirituality isn&#8217;t something you do it&#8217;s something that you become aware something you &#8220;wake up&#8221; to.  The process of becoming awake and unlearning cognitive thoughts about spirituality from childhood isn&#8217;t an easy journey.</p>
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